Comments on: Joe Wurzelbacher is Joe the Plumber

By: Susan Roesgen: Angry CNN Reporter Calls Tea Party Protesters Anti-Government and Anti-CNN » Blue Star Chronicles

Thu, 16 Apr 2009 14:12:23 +0000

[...] government entities to intimidate and quiet anyone who doesn’t agree with them. Take ‘Joe the Plumber‘ for instance. If you say something they don’t like, you will find yourself on the [...]

By: Thoughts on Election 2008 » Right Pundits

Thoughts on Election 2008 » Right Pundits — Sat, 01 Nov 2008 07:09:12 +0000

[...] feel threatened, and I don’t recall an election like this in my lifetime. The issue with Joe (the plumber/non plumber) should have each and everyone one of you quaking in your boots. When has there been a time in [...]

By: warner

warner — Tue, 21 Oct 2008 18:41:29 +0000

I THINK JOE WAS PLANTED.
IS JOE REALLY A BROTHER IN LAW TO ROBERT WERZELBLACHER OF MILFORD, OHIO.
I READ THAT ROBERT WERZELBLACHER IS A SON-IN-LAW OF CHARLES KEATING OF THE KEATING FIVE.
IT ALSO SAID ROBERT IS FORMER SENIOR VP OF AMERICAN CONTINENTAL - THE INFAMOUS LINCOLN SAVINGS AND LOAN. IT ALSO SAID HE IS A MAJOR CONTRIBUTER TO THE REPUBLICAN CAUSES. HUMMMMM!!

By: Steve

Steve — Mon, 20 Oct 2008 03:18:03 +0000

Again, I would challenge you for specifics. And I would say again that, in my opinion, Obama is not interested in just “taking from the rich” and handing out to the poor. By “spreading the wealth” I think he means, giving those who are not rich a chance to better their situation. The very wealthy who have gotten tax breaks under Bush and would do so under McCain are not going to invest those savings in Joe’s dream of owning his own business. He has to save money to do that, and Obama’s tax plan would make that easier.

IF Joe made over $250,000 in income, he would pay 39% in taxes under Obama’s plan—only a 3% marginal increase on income over $250k. But Cindy McCain made $4.1 million in the past year and paid only 26% in taxes. Explain to me how this helps the middle class get ahead, if you would. This is not a matter of the Democrats “soaking the rich,” it’s a matter of Republicans soaking the middle class—and they have overspent massively, including under Reagan.

The Republican “philosophy” rests upon the same fallacy that makes Communism unworkable: the idea that people will only take as much wealth as they need, and use the rest to help their fellow countrymen achieve the same kind of life. We have seen, under Communism and the Republican brand of capitalism, that this does not work: the rich and powerful continue to acquire more wealth and power by denying it to everyone else. It’s human nature that some people are greedy. If we follow the Republican party’s path, the U.S. will eventually wind up a capitalist oligarchy like China is now.

By: Obama Vows to Change the World » Right Pundits

Obama Vows to Change the World » Right Pundits — Sun, 19 Oct 2008 10:31:02 +0000

[...] We’ve gotten a bit of a glimpse at some of the changes he has in mind. All one needs do is look at the thuggery used to silence opposition. Take for example his Marxist comments to the man who has become known as ‘Joe the Plumber’ stating he would ’spread the wealth’ and then the subsequent character assassination against Joe Wurzelbacher. [...]

By: Steve

Steve — Fri, 17 Oct 2008 23:28:03 +0000

Also, David is (obviously, I think) not saying we should apologize for being Americans. He is taking issue with people like JtP -accusing- others of saying we should apologize. Feeling responsibility for what some see as misdeeds, hypocrisy or arrogance by our government is very American and thus nothing to apologize for. The government and the nation are not the same thing.

We can also be embarrassed or offended by our fellow Americansn who aren’t in government, but again, that doesn’t mean we think our nation itself is bad.

By: Steve

Steve — Fri, 17 Oct 2008 23:01:21 +0000

Beth, if I’m wrong, I’d sincerely like to know about what exactly, and why. With sources, if possible.

By: beth

beth — Fri, 17 Oct 2008 07:15:39 +0000

Steve, You’re wrong.

By: beth

beth — Fri, 17 Oct 2008 07:15:16 +0000

David, are you saying that ‘not apologize for being Americans’ is right wing crap and ‘fringe’?

Why should anyone apologize for being American? That’s a very unAmerican attitude, frankly.

Even the French don’t feel they should apologize for being French. Geezz.

By: David

David — Fri, 17 Oct 2008 05:29:54 +0000

well joe right? didnt seem in the middle at all recently he has said some very typical right wing crap. ‘not apologize for being americans” seems to think as do the “fringe” does in the gop That obama is unamerican. i have yet to see the gop give us any proof without them being labled hypocrites. for example even bush is considering a timetable. a reasonable more like trying to suck them for all their worth before we leave. in iraq even though even the iraqi people want us out. Give these people give their country back which includes their legitimacy. its the right thing to do.

By: Steve

Steve — Fri, 17 Oct 2008 04:32:37 +0000

Joe stated “my American Dream was to have a house, a dog, a couple rifles, a bass boat…making a good living and being able to provide for my family, college for my son.” [Interview at http://familysecuritymatters.org/publications/id.1465/pub_detail.asp

If, as he now admits, $250k is the gross revenue of his prospective business, not the income he derives from it, he will be better able to reach these goals under Obama’s plan—much more so than McCain’s, which will tax him MORE.

Joe seems to want a flat tax, which is worth debate, but to say that a progressive tax is “socialist” is to say that that EVERY President and Congress since 1913 has been “socialist.”

If he has his house, rifles, dog, boat, and son’s college, easily paid for with a $250k income, and he’s complaining about a 3% marginal increase over that amount…that’s just sheer greed. He himself says he has no need for the money.

By: Take me to your Linker

Take me to your Linker — Fri, 17 Oct 2008 00:59:58 +0000

Whether you are Democrat or Republican it is time for the Common Man of America to take back our Goverment. We must elect “real” Americans. The Common Man of America will be realistic and will fix the problems that politians created. I hope more “Joe the Plumbers” stand up, and that we take back our country.

By: Howard

Howard — Thu, 16 Oct 2008 21:53:05 +0000

So far, all the conclusions by all the pundits are
totally based upon POLLS. Not a single actual vote
has been cast yet. Obama supporters gush at how
well their man has done in the debates, which proves
once again that Obama is a good debater and a good
speaker. It doesn’t say anything about his character,
judgement, or what kind of a leader he would be.
I still would rather trust a man who would not sell out
his fellow prisoners, even during 5 years of torture,
than to trust a man who betrayed a 20 year friendship,
for personal ambition. And … regarding this election,
until people actually vote … it ain’t over till it’s over!

By: Mike

Mike — Thu, 16 Oct 2008 20:13:36 +0000

It should be ” Joe The Dumbass Plumber”.

By: Vince

Vince — Thu, 16 Oct 2008 20:05:21 +0000

You Left Wing Communist Pigs! You truly are sick, very sick sub humans.

By: IrieD

IrieD — Thu, 16 Oct 2008 18:13:42 +0000

Someone sent this to me.

It looks as if Joe the Plumber may be a Republican plant.
And his family may be connected to Charles Keating of the Keating scandal.

Joe the plumber has a very usual last name and it appears he is a relative of Charles Keating. Also, what are the chances that FOX would capture it? And his name is Joe? And he cornered Barack?

Turns out that Joe Wurzelbacher from the Toledo event is a close relative of Robert Wurzelbacher of Milford, Ohio. Who’s Robert Wurzelbacher? Only Charles Keating’s son-in-law and the former senior vice president of American Continental, the parent company of the infamous Lincoln Savings and Loan. The now retired elder Wurzelbacher is also a major contributor to Republican causes giving well over $10,000 in the last few years.
Check it out here:
Martin Eisenstadt’s Blog » Blog Archive » Joe “the Plumber” Wurzelbacher related to Charles “the Crook” Keating. Oops.
http://www.eisenstadtgroup.com/2008/10/15/joe-the-plumber-wurzelbacher-related-to-charles-keating-oops/

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By: beth

beth — Thu, 16 Oct 2008 17:29:27 +0000

No Vince - he’s actually Marxist. But if he considers it an insult to identify his politics then perhaps he should change his politics.

By: Vince

Vince — Thu, 16 Oct 2008 15:18:34 +0000

So Obama is “socialist” because he wants to distribute”wealth” to the middle class.

So what do we call distributing wealth to the the wealthiest these past 8 years.

Please….Democrats want to help EVERYONE , Republicans want to help the Wealthy….simple as that

By: andrea

andrea — Thu, 16 Oct 2008 14:44:30 +0000

everyone seems to ignore the national debt and its interest; 10 trillion and growing by leaps and bounds!!! It has to be paid. To be able to pay it, government has to take in more money…from those who still can afford tax increases. This is pure mathematics.

By: Orel Stevenson

Orel Stevenson — Thu, 16 Oct 2008 14:17:30 +0000

Yes Pravin isn’t it interesting that McCain had foreknowledge of Joe’s last name.