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	<title>Comments on: Ahmadinejad to Germany, Holocaust Not an Issue</title>
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		<title>By: MAS1916</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Apr 2009 13:21:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting that Iran has such a complete grasp on German history.  Should Germany accept this? It is their concern alone.  

It will be interesting when in a few years, Iran has a weapons system and because of American deterrence (Obama won't be President forever), the next likely target will be Europe.  What then?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting that Iran has such a complete grasp on German history.  Should Germany accept this? It is their concern alone.  </p>
<p>It will be interesting when in a few years, Iran has a weapons system and because of American deterrence (Obama won&#8217;t be President forever), the next likely target will be Europe.  What then?</p>
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		<title>By: Dimitrijevic</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Apr 2009 20:54:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SPIEGEL: …and you too would have to recognize Israel, a country that you have said, in the past, you would like to "wipe off the map."

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Here is what President Ahmadi-Nejad of Iran REALLY said, transliterated from Persian into the Roman alphabet:

"Imam ghoft een rezhim-e ishghalgar-e qods bayad az safheh-ye ruzgar mahv shavad." 

Word by word translation:

Imam (Khomeini) ghoft (said) een (this) rezhim-e (regime) ishghalgar-e (occupying) qods (Jerusalem) bayad (must) az safheh-ye ruzgar (from page of time) mahv shavad (vanish from). 

i.e.

"The Imam Khomeini said this regime occupying Jerusalem must vanish from the page of time."

Note that President Ahmadi-Nejad is quoting an old passage from Imam Khomeini and neither Khomeini nor Ahmadi-Nejad threatened to "wipe [anything] off the map." There is no idiom in Persian "to wipe [something] off the map." That is an American or English expression.

Full text of President Ahmadi-Nejad's speech, in Persian, here:

http://www.irandefence.net/archive/index.php/t-11027.html

Ref:

'Wiped Off the Map' -- The Rumour of the Century
-- By Arash Norouzi -- 26 May 2007

http://www.antiwar.com/orig/norouzi.php?articleid=11025

University of Michigan Professor Juan Cole, a  fluent speaker of Persian writes:

"As most of my readers know, Ahmadinejad did not use that phrase ["wipe Israel off the map"] in Persian. He quoted an old saying of Ayatollah Khomeini calling for 'this occupation regime over Jerusalem" to "vanish from the page of time.' Calling for a regime to vanish is not the same as calling for people to be killed. Ahmadinejad has not to my knowledge called for anyone to be killed.

http://www.juancole.com/2007/06/ahmadinejad-i-am-not-anti-semitic.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SPIEGEL: …and you too would have to recognize Israel, a country that you have said, in the past, you would like to &#8220;wipe off the map.&#8221;</p>
<p>- - - - </p>
<p>Here is what President Ahmadi-Nejad of Iran REALLY said, transliterated from Persian into the Roman alphabet:</p>
<p>&#8220;Imam ghoft een rezhim-e ishghalgar-e qods bayad az safheh-ye ruzgar mahv shavad.&#8221; </p>
<p>Word by word translation:</p>
<p>Imam (Khomeini) ghoft (said) een (this) rezhim-e (regime) ishghalgar-e (occupying) qods (Jerusalem) bayad (must) az safheh-ye ruzgar (from page of time) mahv shavad (vanish from). </p>
<p>i.e.</p>
<p>&#8220;The Imam Khomeini said this regime occupying Jerusalem must vanish from the page of time.&#8221;</p>
<p>Note that President Ahmadi-Nejad is quoting an old passage from Imam Khomeini and neither Khomeini nor Ahmadi-Nejad threatened to &#8220;wipe [anything] off the map.&#8221; There is no idiom in Persian &#8220;to wipe [something] off the map.&#8221; That is an American or English expression.</p>
<p>Full text of President Ahmadi-Nejad&#8217;s speech, in Persian, here:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.irandefence.net/archive/index.php/t-11027.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.irandefence.net/archive/index.php/t-11027.html</a></p>
<p>Ref:</p>
<p>&#8216;Wiped Off the Map&#8217; &#8212; The Rumour of the Century<br />
&#8211; By Arash Norouzi &#8212; 26 May 2007</p>
<p><a href="http://www.antiwar.com/orig/norouzi.php?articleid=11025" rel="nofollow">http://www.antiwar.com/orig/norouzi.php?articleid=11025</a></p>
<p>University of Michigan Professor Juan Cole, a  fluent speaker of Persian writes:</p>
<p>&#8220;As most of my readers know, Ahmadinejad did not use that phrase ["wipe Israel off the map"] in Persian. He quoted an old saying of Ayatollah Khomeini calling for &#8216;this occupation regime over Jerusalem&#8221; to &#8220;vanish from the page of time.&#8217; Calling for a regime to vanish is not the same as calling for people to be killed. Ahmadinejad has not to my knowledge called for anyone to be killed.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.juancole.com/2007/06/ahmadinejad-i-am-not-anti-semitic.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.juancole.com/2007/06/ahmadinejad-i-am-not-anti-semitic.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: EJH</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Apr 2009 03:19:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Take away the writer's obviously biased comments and the Der Spiegel interviewer's determination to get the soundbites he was expecting and just look at Ahmadinejad's own words.  There really is nothing there worthy of criticism.  I understand how important it is to lots of people to demonize leaders of nations that get in the way of American power projection, but the Iranian president did not say anything incorrect or bigoted in this post.  Please try harder next time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Take away the writer&#8217;s obviously biased comments and the Der Spiegel interviewer&#8217;s determination to get the soundbites he was expecting and just look at Ahmadinejad&#8217;s own words.  There really is nothing there worthy of criticism.  I understand how important it is to lots of people to demonize leaders of nations that get in the way of American power projection, but the Iranian president did not say anything incorrect or bigoted in this post.  Please try harder next time.</p>
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